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Welcome
once again to Wednesday, the
17th of September, 2025.

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Mid-Western Regional Council's
ordinary meeting. I welcome the
gallery again. I welcome the

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staff, the media. We've got a
media reporter tonight. Welcome
back. And our counsellors. Did

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the acknowledgement first our
general manager to
acknowledgement of country.

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Please, I'd like to acknowledge
the traditional owners of the
lands on which we meet the

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Wiradjuri people and pay our
respects to elders past,
present and emerging. I

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disclose of interest. I've got
three here, one from Eleanor
Acer, senior staff member, one

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from myself. As a co-owner of
one of the buildings getting
renovated, Councillor Palmer

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and Councillor Dicker. Oh Jesus,
thank you councillors for that
and confirmation of the minutes

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held on the 20th of August. A
month or so ago we moved that
Palmer, who moved Councillor

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Palmer, Palmer and Prior Poo
Poos Councillor Palmer Empire
on page eight and that matters

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in progress. I think we've got
a deletion, so put them all
those in favour. The minutes

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that is carried unanimously.
Page four. You've got a
completion on the jet patcher

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in our matters in progress.
Second that remove that
Councillor Shirley and Palmer.

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Any discussion? I'll put the
motion. All those in favour
against carried unanimously.

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Madam mayor, you got a notice
of motion from Councillor
Thompson on Flirtation Hill?

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Second? No. Councillor.
Thompson. Second councillor.
Cornish. Mr. mayor, I often go

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up there because when I lived
in Madeira Road 55 years ago, I
used to take my children up

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there. It's a beautiful look
out and unfortunately, if
you've got to look out, you

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need to be able to see all
around it. And now it's it's
the trees that grew up that

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much around there. You can see
out to the east, not not right
around. You can see a small

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section out to the north, the
rest you can't see. So it's
good to have a look out with

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one of the best looks of
lookouts around. And I know
we've done what the staff say

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in there to come up and do
something, but this has been
going on and on and on. I think

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it's about ten years since I
brought up about it. I will say
that they went up there and

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filled up where where the
washout was down there, but it
started to wash out again. So

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and the edges up there along
the bitumen as you ride in or
drive in is all broken away.

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And they've done, they've put
them viewing platform out there.
But unfortunately at the moment

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there's not much to view. So we
need to do something about it
and fix that look out, out, up.

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So we've got a decent look out
because when I tore around I go
to town to go up there, look up,

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have a good look around. If you
if you go up to Townsville, you
go up the lookout up there and

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you can see the whole of
Townsville from it. On the, on
the big hill up there. And

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usually a woman rang me up
there a while back to tell me
that my grandmother read her

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mother and brother and sisters
when her mother and father got
killed, and she represented

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Australia in the Olympic Games
on four times. This woman,
she's going to come down here

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and see me, she said. I was
pretty excited about that. So
thank you. I just hope we can

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get something done with our
look out, that's all. You can
speak. Against or for? No, no,

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just a comment. Speak. If this
motion gets passed up tonight
through you, Mr. Mayor, to the

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general manager, did you want
the last paragraph of staff's
comments? Was that the removal

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of trees, that protection hill
can be achieved, but not
without not within existing

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budgets. So if council was a
mind to follow the steps laid
out in the adopted Hill Master

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plan, then it would be
recommended that a report be
requested for Council to that

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effect, for determination,
etcetera, etcetera. Would you
need that as part of the motion,

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or would you just do it if the
motion is accepted tonight,
probably would prefer it as a

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part of a motion. So I would
then bring a report. Okay. Then
I suggest to the mover and the

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seconder to add that a report
be supplied to Council.
Something to report. Just happy

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to come back from fishing trip
so it'll be right. So that's
all I wanted to say. Any

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further discussion on it. Thank
you. On this tin of worms.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Look,

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Flirtation Hill, I've been up
there. Fantastic view, totally
obscured. Fantastic tourist

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attraction that should be
exploited more, but we can't
exploit it while we've got all

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that vegetation around it.
People like to go around and
have a look and see what's

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around our area. They don't
want to just come in the mud.
You don't want to go to places

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like Gulgong and of course
windier, but we do need to do
this as a priority. It is a bit

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of a neglect up there and
rumour has it that many are. A
family has been started up

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there and that the ageing
population I think would only
help Gulgong. Probably many a

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family have been destroyed up
there as well. On. So before we
vote or anybody wants to speak

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again, you want to confirm that
wording there, councillor
Shelley, the as long as my

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mover in the second to approve
the report on the environmental
impact of trees. Yeah. Cost.

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Yeah that's fine. Any further
speakers for a for or against
it. I'd like to speak against

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it. Strongly in 2022 which is
not long ago 23 we spent 7 or
800,000 up there making

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extending the car park, not
just up at the top, but in that
precinct there. At that time,

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we did a study. If you read
your officer's comments that
we're not like, if you if we

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had a bank full of money, it's
it's not a bad idea, but a
priority. It's far from a

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priority to spend $100,000
there chopping a few trees down
so people can look. You can get

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up there and have a fairly good
look to the east and other
places, so I'll be voting

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against it. And an indicative
budget at the time that was in
March 42nd was $100,000 was

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suggested for the program of
targeted tree removal of pines
and replacing placing them with

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native species. So I don't
think we're that flush with
money that we can make

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something up there. That's just
my opinion. Any further
discussion on it? I'll put the

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motion as written up there.
That report back to council.
All those in favour against.

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Thank you. Lost. Page 11 is a
rail service between Lithgow
and Rylstone, moved by

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Councillor Pryor. Seconded
Thompson. Thank you. I should
have got Mike Sweeney to get up

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here and do this for me. Went
through it so thoroughly, but
as that wasn't on camera or

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recorded the motion, is that a
rail service, that a letter be
written to the Minister for

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transport and other relevant
ministers to request serious
consideration be given to the

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reinstatement of regular
railway service between Lithgow
and Rylstone? The reason that

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I've put this up is that the
railway line between Lithgow
and Rylstone is serviceable.

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There's tourist trains
operating on it currently.
There's a very little expense

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would be involved in
reinstating a passenger service
to Rylstone. It would remove a

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very arduous bus journey that
local residents have to take to
get to Lithgow. I believe it

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would shorten the travel time.
It would also be a benefit to
people who have mobility access

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issues, because they would be
able to get on a train at
Rylstone. When they get to

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Lithgow, they're on the
platform that takes the train
either west or east, so they

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wouldn't be going up and down
stairs as they currently do. We
no longer have a regular

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passenger air service here, and
it's unlikely we're going to
see one in the short term. We

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are actually impoverished with
public transport options and as
I said, it's an arduous road

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journey going to Lithgow. Often
the bus actually takes a very
scenic route all the way out

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through Rylstone, Kandos,
Khandallah, Ilford, out to
Wallerawang, through Portland

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and doesn't even marry up with
a train service at that time.
And there's a waiting. So it

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does. Yes it does. As as I said.
Well, yeah, okay. It may do,
but I have heard other people

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say contrary. As I said,
there's very little cost
involved. There's no cost

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involved to council to actually
lobby these ministers to take a
serious look at it. And I can't

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see any reason why they
wouldn't embrace it. So I'm
committing it to council to

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vote on tonight. Thank you. Or
against. Thank you Councilor
Cornish. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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As as I've said before,
definitely for the rail being
reinstated for tourist reasons.

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This will cost nothing. The
more we pressure the government
and we're more likely to get

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funding from a Labour
government because they
certainly don't give us any

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road funding, but they are
positive on rail. So I am quite
happy. I think just the letter

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is not going to be a negative
thing for anyone. I think that.
Councillor Prior's along the

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right ideas with this one.
Councilor Shelley is going to
be a shock for some people. No,

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right. I'm actually voting
against this motion and for the
following reasons. And it's

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only one reason. Basically,
just cancel accepts and
supports rail from Lithgow

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through to Gulgong. That hasn't
changed and we still do. I
still do. What gets me though

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is that we're putting a motion
here tonight and in the
background in the officer's

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comments, it should also be
noted that council is about to
commence community engagement

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regarding the use of the rail
corridor between Rylstone and
Mudgee to further understand

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the community's appetite for
activities such as rail trails
and or continuing or continued

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lobbying for rail passenger
services on this line. That's
community engagement, okay. And

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I still think that's very, very
important. Okay, this is the
second motion that Councillor

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Prior's put up over the last
two months to circumvent
community engagement. I still

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think it's very important.
Every council around here, and
I certainly know the ratepayers

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and our community expect it,
that if we put something out
for a community engagement,

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that they have the opportunity
to do so. They have their say.
Everybody around here bleats

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about, you know, we're here for
the community and blah, blah,
blah. That's not just words.

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It's actually true. Okay. So
it's not it's not a a political
saying. It's what we should

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actually believe. If this
motion gets up tonight is
circumventing community

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engagement. It's exactly what
it says, Mr. Palmer. Right. Can
I finish? Sorry, sorry, sorry,

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sorry. Now, that's the only
point. I still believe that we
should get passenger rail

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through. I don't know if it'll
ever happen, but we can. We can
continue to try. But this here

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tonight, you're circumventing
community engagement. Community
input? Yes. If they want us to

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continue lobbying, we put this
up. I'll be happy to vote for
this. No problems at all, but

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do it when it's appropriate.
Let the process take its course.
Councillor Palmer, just briefly,

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Mr. Mayor, I'm going to vote
against it. And I know there's
people here that might not be

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so shocked by it, but for me
it's more about the practical
side of things. Councillor

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prior and I understand the, you
know, the sentiment behind it
works. I've spoken with you

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previously that improves the
Bates. That idea of trains
coming to Rolleston for me that

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fitted in with, you know, maybe
a a rail trail one day where
whether that ever happens. But

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for me, when you and I only
just hit me when you were
talking about the coach service

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that goes from Mudgee and
through all these towns, it's
one coach. And often my son

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used to come home from uni.
You'd put him on to get to
Lithgow to catch the train to

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go back to uni. It didn't feel
the coach and you named all
those towns like if they bring

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back a passenger service that
stops at Rolleston. If you want
to get on a coach, if you want

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to get on and go to Sydney on a
train for me, you're only going
to have a coach to Rolleston

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that will fall down. And later
on, you know, I'm thinking out
there is that you'll lose that

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service. So everyone will be
jumping on in their cars,
driving off and put someone on

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a train. It just it just
doesn't work. It just doesn't
work. So that's the only like I

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said, I admire the sentiment,
but for me it's just it's not
practical. It's going against

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what we've been saying before.
We do get the tourism trains
that come out, and I think

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that's a great idea. But after
that we need to start bringing
this argument together

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coherently. So there you go.
Further discussion. Alex
Councilor Karavas. Thank you,

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councillor. Thank you. I'll
speak against the motion.
However, I do agree that it is

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a good notice of motion. I just
don't think the timing is
correct. So as as staff have

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said, and then also Councillor
Shelley and again Councillor
Shirley's right. This is the

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second time. Now let's allow
the community to have their say
on the appetite of rail

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corridors. And hey this could
come back and, and the
community may want this and I

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think then let's bring this
notice motion back to council
and we'll support it then. And

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if that's not what the
community wants we'll follow
their whichever direction they

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would like us to as a majority.
Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Sorry,
Mr. Mayor, but I think a few

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people might have their wires
crossed if this was put out.
When we've done the community

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engagement, I'm pretty sure
there'll be a huge amount of
people would have said that

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that's what they want.
Unfortunately, it wasn't put
out. But Councillor Prior

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brings the motion forward,
which is going to if we can get
a get the the service from Ross

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and Lithgow, then we've got
more chance of getting, getting
the line opened through to

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Gulgong, which should have been
open by now anyhow because we
we need to have a bit of vision

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for the future. The people who
say will probably never open
again. That's all a heap of

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rubbish. It'll open. Don't
worry about that. You never
give in till there's nowhere to

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nowhere else to go. And I'm not
going to give on it. When I was
the mayor, I called a rally up

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at the at the station up here
in Mudgee, and over a thousand
people come along and all sign

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to say they wanted. They wanted
the line open for, for, for
that passenger train. Had that

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end up. Well, we've got 20, $27
million from the state
government then to do up all

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the viaduct going out. Yeah.
And how did it end up? No. Well
what happened then? They lost

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government. There was a labor
government. The coalition got
in who was supposed to look

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after a claim that they look
after people with the country,
with the National Party, but we

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couldn't get any money out of
to finish the line. They never
did it. Remember, we only had a

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ring from a commodities deal
the other day to say, I got
more people that are interested

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in in building another
abattoirs in Mudgee. And just
just to remind you, the last

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abattoirs we had here used to
employ over over 400 people
directly and at least half that

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indirectly had just put $50
million into our economy. That
would be good for all the

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shopkeepers in the town,
wouldn't it? But unfortunately,
another person brought it up. I

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went to see him with a
different person. Before. He
wasn't interested in selling it.

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It's got a rail loop that goes
into it. If it was, only get
hold of it again and we get the

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people to start it up. We could
have that. It probably $100
million a day would be going

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into our community and employ
about another 600 people. They
talk about what are we going to

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do when when the mines closed
down. You know, there's a lot
of talk from the federal

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government about to close them
down. Well, it would be nice to
be another sector employment

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for 600 people. So we need to
get the railway line opened
again. And go on down to Rawson.

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This will be a start to get a
passenger train from Rawson to
Lithgow, and then we might be

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able to get them through to
Gulgong. Thank you. Yes. Yeah.
Thanks. Mr. Mayor. I just think

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while I agree with Councillor
Pryor's motion, I think it's
putting the cart before the

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horse. I think that in a couple
of months time when we've had
our community engagement,

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correct me if I'm wrong, that
we will then be able to put
this motion up from Lithgow to

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Kalgoorlie and be passed
without any worries whatsoever.
So let's let's leave it till

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then. A all good councillor.
That's enough after this
councillor through you, Mr.

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Mayor, just a question. Do we
have an ETA or expected
timeline for when the. Yeah.

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When the. Sorry. The engagement
will commence. Thank you mayor.
The community engagement

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literally commencing within the
next couple of weeks. So we
should be bringing a report up

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by the end of the year. Yep.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Reply.
If there's no one else. Yep.

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You can sum up. Look, I think
Councillor Shirley's completing
the issue quite a bit. I'm not

00:18:54.256 --> 00:19:00.495
preventing community engagement
on this issue. They're talking
in that community engagement of

00:19:00.529 --> 00:19:04.599
rail service or corridor from
Rylstone through to Mudgee.
There's going to be an

00:19:04.633 --> 00:19:10.405
incredible delay in that
because of the cost involved
and the work that's going to be

00:19:10.439 --> 00:19:18.346
needed. I'm talking about a
rail link that could be done
very soon with very limited

00:19:18.380 --> 00:19:24.252
expense from Lithgow to
Rylstone. It's doable. It's
doable. Now do we really want

00:19:24.286 --> 00:19:28.390
to wait that long for the state
government to be able to say
that they can finance the

00:19:28.423 --> 00:19:36.364
amount of infrastructure work
that's going to be needed from
Rylstone to Mudgee or Gulgong?

00:19:36.398 --> 00:19:42.537
We could do this. We could do
this now. It it could happen
sooner. It would be an

00:19:42.571 --> 00:19:48.410
indicative of the use and the
demand for that service. It
would be able to tell the state

00:19:48.443 --> 00:19:56.451
government that there is a need
for it, which would reinforce
the actual commitment to build

00:19:56.485 --> 00:20:00.922
the rail back to Mudgee. When
it comes to Councillor Palmer
saying that it's probably best

00:20:00.956 --> 00:20:04.793
not to, the trip to Rylstone
would decrease the amount of
use. I think that's incorrect.

00:20:04.826 --> 00:20:10.465
I think it would actually
increase the amount of use
because the people in this area

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would have a much shorter
travel time to Rylstone, and
many of them, yes, may not use

00:20:16.304 --> 00:20:22.244
the bus. They may actually find
it more convenient to actually
drive there and park their cars

00:20:22.277 --> 00:20:28.650
at Rylstone, rather than what
many of them do now, and drive
their vehicles to Lithgow, or

00:20:28.683 --> 00:20:32.921
even Mount Vic or Katoomba and
park their cars. So I don't
agree with either of the

00:20:32.954 --> 00:20:40.529
arguments of Councillor Shelley
or Palmer. I think, you know,
it's basically a nonsense and

00:20:40.562 --> 00:20:44.866
you know, I'm not removing the
community engagement process.
It will happen and it's a

00:20:44.900 --> 00:20:58.446
separate part to what I'm
actually proposing. Thank you,
thank you, thank you. Put the

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motion. All those in favour or
against five motions lost. I
was sneaky. Security cameras at

00:21:06.621 --> 00:21:14.229
Billy Don Oval. Councillor
Thompson. What have we got up
here? Cameras? Oh, we've just

00:21:14.262 --> 00:21:24.439
got a history lesson. It was a
gallery that we. Well, I'll
move the motion first, I

00:21:24.472 --> 00:21:30.478
suppose. Excuse me. Sorry.
Second. Yeah, right. Well, as
you know, we have these Sports

00:21:30.512 --> 00:21:36.551
Council meetings. Not as much
as regular what we used to,
because all got changed around

00:21:36.585 --> 00:21:43.058
probably two a year, but after
the one out at Gulgong recently
and I've represented on that

00:21:43.091 --> 00:21:48.830
Sports council for 38 years, 38
years today since I first got
elected to this council. It's

00:21:48.864 --> 00:21:56.671
not a record. The late Bill
cocktail, the record. He was
three months off 50 years when

00:21:56.705 --> 00:22:02.244
he passed away. And he was on
the council at the time. So.
They raised out there, if you

00:22:02.277 --> 00:22:14.189
look through the minutes of the
meeting out there, it'll tell
you about the problems they got

00:22:14.222 --> 00:22:20.595
with the vandals at Billy Dunn
Oval. And it was suggested that
we get a few more of these.

00:22:20.629 --> 00:22:28.236
Security cameras at Billy Dunn
Oval there, because they
believe if we get another three

00:22:28.270 --> 00:22:32.507
cameras, they'll be able to
identify these people that are
that are getting in there and

00:22:32.540 --> 00:22:38.480
doing the damage. At one stage,
they painted nearly all the
grandstand with gravity with a

00:22:38.513 --> 00:22:44.653
great disgrace. If you went and
have a look at it. But not not
only are they doing vandal

00:22:44.686 --> 00:22:50.258
vandalising Billy Dunn Oval,
they're vandalising a lot of
other places in Gulgong. We

00:22:50.292 --> 00:22:54.529
need to try and catch them
somehow, and the only way we
can catch them is with more of

00:22:54.562 --> 00:23:00.335
these cameras. So I said, well,
I'll put it up as a council
because you're there to

00:23:00.368 --> 00:23:06.308
represent the people. And I've
always represented the people,
not my own interests. Like some

00:23:06.341 --> 00:23:14.282
councillors have sat around
this table over the years, I'm
there for the community. And

00:23:14.316 --> 00:23:24.159
and so I brought this up
because that's what I was asked
for to do at the meeting. Any

00:23:24.192 --> 00:23:30.231
discussion on this, councillors?
Mr. councillor. Mr. mayor I'm
just wondering well Mr. cam

00:23:30.265 --> 00:23:36.371
general manager could they be
more strategically placed for
sixth or eighth or whatever's

00:23:36.404 --> 00:23:40.442
out there so we can catch the
crook. Because another half a
dozen mightn't help. Through

00:23:40.475 --> 00:23:44.813
you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, we
certainly could look at getting
some feedback as to where we

00:23:44.846 --> 00:23:54.222
think there might be a an area
that's not been covered by
already the six cameras that we

00:23:54.255 --> 00:24:00.328
have at Billy Dunn Oval.
Christian. Now the camera, the
cameras are already out there.

00:24:00.362 --> 00:24:06.201
They're not live cameras, are
they? They're not. They're not
monitored. So really, though,

00:24:06.234 --> 00:24:10.472
if something happens, you go
and have a look at the. Yeah,
have a look at them. And if

00:24:10.505 --> 00:24:14.576
they haven't got back covers or
a hoodie up or whatever else
and we've got six of them in be

00:24:14.609 --> 00:24:22.384
done. Yes. Right. Criminals
that don't get caught or for
good reasons, they usually can

00:24:22.417 --> 00:24:34.396
outsmart them I think. So any
further discussion on the
motion on page 1212 6.3? All

00:24:34.429 --> 00:24:38.566
those in favour? Yes. Page 13.
Councillors, I'd like to move a
motion, Mr. mayor, on 7.1. Yep.

00:24:38.600 --> 00:24:42.637
That the recommendation that
one that we received a report
from the director of community.

00:24:42.670 --> 00:24:46.741
Sorry that we received the
report from the Director of
Committee on the Local

00:24:46.775 --> 00:24:56.451
Government, New South Wales
annual conference to. We do not
send any representation to that

00:24:56.484 --> 00:25:02.624
conference. No. Seconder.
Councillor. Second caravan.
Caravan. Any discussion. Put

00:25:02.657 --> 00:25:08.229
the motion. All those in favour.
Sorry. Well in that case could
I speak first as the mover of

00:25:08.263 --> 00:25:16.137
the motion. Yeah. Okay. Move on
to motion one, the annual
conference. I don't think we've

00:25:16.171 --> 00:25:18.873
seen anybody there for the last
ten years. Yep. 15 years, 14,
14 years. We haven't sent the

00:25:18.907 --> 00:25:28.183
mayor. The reason why we didn't
is because it's a raw
councillors turn up. They hit

00:25:28.216 --> 00:25:34.489
the piss and you see it on the
ABC on the news three days
later, right. Three days later

00:25:34.522 --> 00:25:39.094
you see it on the ABC. It's a
city centric, city centric,
city centric annual conference

00:25:39.127 --> 00:25:46.468
that is run by an organisation
that we're a member of, which I
think we should really reassess

00:25:46.501 --> 00:25:50.872
to see if we really need to be
a member of this thing. The
motions that get put by country

00:25:50.905 --> 00:25:56.311
councils are hardly ever read
or even seen, because they run
out of time because they're

00:25:56.344 --> 00:26:00.415
talking about Palestine or some
other stupid thing that's got
nothing to do with local

00:26:00.448 --> 00:26:04.619
government. And I think it's an
absolute waste of ratepayers
money. It may be good for

00:26:04.652 --> 00:26:08.823
networking, you know, but you
know, isn't anything with a
beer in your hand or a spoon or

00:26:08.857 --> 00:26:16.164
whatever, but it's an absolute
waste of ratepayers money and
we should not start sending

00:26:16.197 --> 00:26:20.535
councillors there on the
ratepayers dime. Councilor
Cornish. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

00:26:20.568 --> 00:26:26.241
I have a different view on it.
Look, I can't speak for this
council. If you know, people

00:26:26.274 --> 00:26:32.413
have gone and got drunk before,
it wasn't this council. But as
I was on a different council at

00:26:32.447 --> 00:26:36.584
the time when I attended these
things, and I think this
council is fairly isolated from

00:26:36.618 --> 00:26:46.427
its geographical position, and
councillors don't have a great
deal of contact with what's

00:26:46.461 --> 00:26:54.502
happening in other councils
apart from me. So, so I better
ways things can be done. Better

00:26:54.536 --> 00:27:02.377
use of money and and to a point
I'm not going to knock
Councillor Shirley and some

00:27:02.410 --> 00:27:06.714
things he said there are a lot
of negatives on these things,
but unless people come together

00:27:06.748 --> 00:27:12.520
and discuss things and all the
discussion doesn't happen in
the actual conference, most of

00:27:12.554 --> 00:27:18.393
the discussions happen in the
corridors, at the dinners and
that sort of stuff, and that's

00:27:18.426 --> 00:27:24.265
when you find out stuff, the
actual conference itself. Yeah,
I have no faith in the people

00:27:24.299 --> 00:27:30.305
that run them, to be quite
honest. But I think it's
important that councillors and

00:27:30.338 --> 00:27:36.211
councillors that haven't been
around other councillors that
much apart from here, go to

00:27:36.244 --> 00:27:40.114
these things to network and
find out, because we're in a
situation now, we're in a high

00:27:40.148 --> 00:27:46.120
growth thing. People are
worried about the the traffic
from Hungry Jack's. That whole

00:27:46.154 --> 00:27:50.792
precinct is ready to go there.
That's all going to change. And
if councillors need to be aware

00:27:50.825 --> 00:27:58.299
of how to deal with this, and
we've got we're in a
transformation from, you know,

00:27:58.333 --> 00:28:04.339
a country town into a thriving
destination. And to keep that
happening, I think knowledge is

00:28:04.372 --> 00:28:10.211
the key to that. Well, you know,
I can be as cynical as
Councillor Shelly on, on

00:28:10.245 --> 00:28:18.186
certain aspects of it, but I
still think people like
Councilor Karavas would benefit.

00:28:18.219 --> 00:28:24.425
And councillor Prior and other
councillors would, by actually
going to that and seeing what

00:28:24.459 --> 00:28:30.231
other councils are doing and
what where they're going wrong
more importantly. I've been to

00:28:30.265 --> 00:28:36.638
two of these. They are the
biggest waste of time God ever
put breath in, and it cost

00:28:36.671 --> 00:28:40.708
about 1250 to register and for
3 or 4 nights accommodation and
a bit extra here and a bit

00:28:40.742 --> 00:28:46.347
extra there. They're so
eccentric. You just get the
Labour Party and the Liberal

00:28:46.381 --> 00:28:54.355
Party moving and arguing about.
There was 300. I went to one at
Nowra, there were 363 notices

00:28:54.389 --> 00:28:58.860
of motion brought up. They got
to number 70 and the time ran
out. So 310 or 290 of them

00:28:58.893 --> 00:29:04.732
didn't even get through. Most
of them at that stage was when
the boat people was a flavour

00:29:04.766 --> 00:29:10.171
of not like not the Palestinian,
the Jewish debacle we've got
now. But it was about the boat

00:29:10.204 --> 00:29:14.609
people. Nearly every one of
them was about boat people. I'm
thinking I'm here trying to

00:29:14.642 --> 00:29:18.846
represent our community from in
a small community. I am not
going to learn anything here.

00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:24.652
And I came back and said to
then general manager, I think
Warwick Bennett, I said, listen

00:29:24.686 --> 00:29:30.358
to what they're dead set. Waste
of time for us people and learn
off people. The whole corridor

00:29:30.391 --> 00:29:34.962
around a cup of tea or a poem I
haven't seen many of you or me
could learn much about off

00:29:34.996 --> 00:29:40.635
Councilor Cornish next council.
Yeah. Can we, councillor
Thompson, can I ask you to just

00:29:40.668 --> 00:29:46.374
stick to the topic instead of a
history lesson each time you
get on your feet? Please. I

00:29:46.407 --> 00:29:52.480
trying to educate you, Mr.
Mayor. A bit late for that.
Nearly as old as you. So I've

00:29:52.513 --> 00:29:58.353
been to a number of these over
the years. Yeah. And and
comment on that. We if we go to

00:29:58.386 --> 00:30:04.158
one of these, we have the
opportunity to put up motions
to send there and we'll and we

00:30:04.192 --> 00:30:08.629
have three people. Because of
the size of our council, we're
allowed to have three votes.

00:30:08.663 --> 00:30:18.172
Now, any other motions that are
carried at that, that goes to
the government to make changes

00:30:18.206 --> 00:30:24.212
to changes for the good of the
state. So the if we don't
attend, our three votes are

00:30:24.245 --> 00:30:30.385
just wasted. And despite the
saying that other people say
nothing happens and everything,

00:30:30.418 --> 00:30:34.489
and when you attended they had
a chairman, they wasn't very
good, Mr. Mayor, but I've been

00:30:34.522 --> 00:30:42.463
there and they had a really
good chairman. They got through
all the motions on a number of

00:30:42.497 --> 00:30:50.238
years. So. And so, I think
believe that councillors who
want to go are willing to go

00:30:50.271 --> 00:30:56.244
give their time and go down
there. And I always got there
and I debated for the things

00:30:56.277 --> 00:31:00.515
that we you need to get, get to
the microphone quick so you
could get on. So you could so

00:31:00.548 --> 00:31:06.187
you could say what you thought
about the motions that we put
up and other ones, or if you

00:31:06.220 --> 00:31:10.458
were against them, you spoke
against the other ones. And
that's that's what it's all

00:31:10.491 --> 00:31:16.631
about. That's what democracy is
all about, hearing from
people's views. And that's what

00:31:16.664 --> 00:31:20.601
if we want to be able to have a
say, it's no good to sit around
this council and say, oh, they

00:31:20.635 --> 00:31:24.672
shouldn't have this, they
shouldn't have this. Well, if
you want to make changes, go to

00:31:24.705 --> 00:31:32.346
the local government conference
and vote to make the changes.
Thank you. That's your

00:31:32.380 --> 00:31:36.617
opportunity. Any further
discussion? Sorry, councillor.
Sorry. I would have thought

00:31:36.651 --> 00:31:42.290
being members of the
organisation, we'd have, you
know, a moral obligation to go

00:31:42.323 --> 00:31:48.596
there to actually participate
and vote on the executive and
the president of the

00:31:48.629 --> 00:31:54.435
organisation. I also look, I've
not been to one, not a great
drinker. I wouldn't intend to

00:31:54.469 --> 00:31:58.773
go there to get on the Pierce.
I don't know whether that is
still, you know, the thing that

00:31:58.806 --> 00:32:04.178
people do, who knows what they
did in the past and who knows
what what we know, what they

00:32:04.212 --> 00:32:08.316
did in the past, or some people
do, I don't, but there's no
guarantee that's what the next

00:32:08.349 --> 00:32:14.388
meeting would actually involve.
And the way it would be, who
can forecast the future? I just

00:32:14.422 --> 00:32:20.428
looked at it. I felt as a brand
new councillor that I could
benefit from that networking

00:32:20.461 --> 00:32:26.601
going there, and I was actually
looking forward to nominating
to to attend. So, you know, as

00:32:26.634 --> 00:32:30.538
I said before, being members of
the organisation, what's the
point of being members of the

00:32:30.571 --> 00:32:34.542
organisation if you're not
going to participate in it? I
totally agree with him. Well, I

00:32:34.575 --> 00:32:38.846
think we should participate in
it shouldn't be members of the
organisation so we don't have

00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:44.652
to attend. Point of order.
However, we are, we are, we are.
There's a lot of money and then

00:32:44.685 --> 00:32:50.658
we've got to put the motion all
those in we can I submit
written or are we putting.

00:32:50.691 --> 00:32:56.330
That's the that is there hasn't
been an amendment. That is the
motion. Receive the report by

00:32:56.364 --> 00:33:02.470
the director. Nobody actually
raised the question. Can I sum
up. Yeah. Just sum up one.

00:33:02.503 --> 00:33:08.509
Waste of money. Two waste of
time. Three all this other
stuff, it's just rubbish. It

00:33:08.543 --> 00:33:14.315
doesn't happen. It doesn't
happen. Right. Well, I've got
my opinions a lot more than

00:33:14.348 --> 00:33:18.352
yours at the moment, mate. I've
been here for a lot longer. All
right. Well, yeah. You

00:33:18.386 --> 00:33:26.227
shouldn't have said anything,
councillor prior. Just keep.
Keep waste of money. All these

00:33:26.260 --> 00:33:30.665
other arguments for going the
superfluous, they do not make
sense and they don't happen. So

00:33:30.698 --> 00:33:38.472
let's be realistic. Right. And
don't waste ratepayers money
for a lurk from an organisation

00:33:38.506 --> 00:33:44.178
that when it does come up for a
for discussion, when's it
coming up. Next year. Next

00:33:44.211 --> 00:33:48.616
year's coming up that I'll
certainly be voting against
rejoining because of the lack

00:33:48.649 --> 00:33:54.422
of support. And the, the
country actually gets because
it's all city centric. Thank

00:33:54.455 --> 00:34:06.233
you. I'll put the motion. All
those in favour of the motion
that's up on your board there.

00:34:06.267 --> 00:34:12.273
So okay. All those in favour.
Against six three carried. Now
we get on to. 8.1. Yes.

00:34:12.306 --> 00:34:20.247
Seconded, seconded. Hungry.
Jack's move. Councilor Cornish.
Move. Councilor Cornish second

00:34:20.281 --> 00:34:26.587
Councilor Karavas. Any
discussion on this, councillors?
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Look,

00:34:26.621 --> 00:34:34.228
this sends a message to Sydney,
which is where most of our
people come from, that come to

00:34:34.261 --> 00:34:38.499
this area that we're open for
business. When they come here,
they expect the variety of

00:34:38.532 --> 00:34:44.605
places to fast food places
because that's what they eat.
There. We get to I get to

00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:50.544
Lithgow, I go to Hungry Jack's,
I go to Red rooster. I want to
see a Red rooster out here. I

00:34:50.578 --> 00:34:56.250
want to see a mad mix out here.
I'd really like a mad mix out
here, to be honest. A mad, mad,

00:34:56.283 --> 00:35:00.721
mad. See, you haven't heard of
him. So I think the more
variety we've got out here, the

00:35:00.755 --> 00:35:06.360
more employment we get out here,
the better the tourism will be
out here. And the experience

00:35:06.394 --> 00:35:18.172
for the people. So I you know,
I commend the applicants on
this and I hope there are far

00:35:18.205 --> 00:35:24.245
more applications. Councilor
Karavas next. Yeah. In favour
of the motion. Yeah I agree

00:35:24.278 --> 00:35:32.353
completely with what Councilor
Cornish just said while also
taking on board the concerns by

00:35:32.386 --> 00:35:36.957
nearby residents, the charters
in particular. I think once
once this if this does pass

00:35:36.991 --> 00:35:44.265
tonight down the track, I think
we'll have a better
understanding of the traffic

00:35:44.298 --> 00:35:50.204
flow, and I hope that we'll be
able to help. Any concerns
dealing with services for New

00:35:50.237 --> 00:36:00.281
South Wales to hopefully get
around about in or some other
option that might be feasible.

00:36:00.314 --> 00:36:08.255
Also with this development here,
as Councilor Cornish said, it
does show that is open to

00:36:08.289 --> 00:36:12.693
development and progress and
especially for youth employment.
I did hear 38 full time

00:36:12.727 --> 00:36:20.434
equivalent jobs. I'll take that
with a grain of salt, but
absolutely, I, I would imagine

00:36:20.468 --> 00:36:26.474
there would be 40 40 part time
staff, and a lot of those would
be the youth who are looking

00:36:26.507 --> 00:36:30.678
for work. So thank you. Further
discussion on council or
comments. Yeah. Just briefly, I

00:36:30.711 --> 00:36:36.650
mean, I, I agree with Councilor
Cornish Councilor Karavas, but
my, my main concern is that the

00:36:36.684 --> 00:36:42.356
application was made before
council for whatever business
it is, doesn't really doesn't

00:36:42.389 --> 00:36:50.464
really matter as long as it's
done properly. Gone through all
the processes and the Da either

00:36:50.498 --> 00:36:58.539
gets approved, recommended for
approval or not. Hungry. Jacks
don't need a lot of it. Maybe I

00:36:58.572 --> 00:37:04.178
will from now on, but it's not.
It's not. It's not an issue.
Shut up. It's not an issue.

00:37:04.211 --> 00:37:10.584
 Whether you actually like the
product or not, it's whether or
not the applicant has gone,

00:37:10.618 --> 00:37:16.457
jumped through every hoop that
they have to do, and they have
any further discussion. Yes.

00:37:16.490 --> 00:37:26.167
Councillor prior, look, I have
great sympathy for the local
residents and I just hope that

00:37:26.200 --> 00:37:34.475
the conditions that are put on
this development are endorsed
and actually. Regulated and

00:37:34.508 --> 00:37:40.281
policed so that the development
remains compliant. It's not in
my role to actually dictate

00:37:40.314 --> 00:37:44.752
what people put into their
bodies and what they eat. But
I'm not a great fan of fast

00:37:44.785 --> 00:37:52.359
food. This is a compliant
development. There's no way
that we can actually vote

00:37:52.393 --> 00:38:00.234
against it. As such, I prefer
to vote with my head rather
than my heart. So that's about

00:38:00.267 --> 00:38:04.538
it from me. I just think that,
you know, the the concerns
about noise, odour and traffic

00:38:04.572 --> 00:38:08.809
are significant. I do believe
that we're going to have some
serious issues around the

00:38:08.843 --> 00:38:14.515
traffic management of that
street intersection, and it's
going to be something that

00:38:14.548 --> 00:38:20.354
we're going to have to face in
the future. Yeah. Thank you.
Further discussion on this.

00:38:20.387 --> 00:38:24.458
Councillor one. One little
thing is we're actually taking
business away from Lithgow,

00:38:24.491 --> 00:38:32.533
which I'm always happy to do,
and we're bringing it here.
He's already spoken. Workers

00:38:32.566 --> 00:38:40.441
are no good in this campaign.
You know, he's he's summed up
with the motion all those in

00:38:40.474 --> 00:38:50.417
favour and a standing ban. Said
well carried. What about you,
Mr. Mayor? Unanimous. That's

00:38:50.451 --> 00:39:02.463
good enough. I don't have to
stand. Like I said, unanimous.
Okay. Move me. Just note that.

00:39:02.496 --> 00:39:08.469
Move 8.2. Second. Second note
to the leader. She's gonna move
8.2. Move 8.2 is a councillor.

00:39:08.502 --> 00:39:16.176
Hallway. Move! Counsellor.
Second counsellor. Caravan or
Cornish? Whichever one you

00:39:16.210 --> 00:39:32.259
first you watch. Yes. You.
Discussion on this? No
discussion. All those in favour?

00:39:32.293 --> 00:39:42.202
Standing carried. Unanimous.
Alex, please. Because of the
conflict of interest from the

00:39:42.236 --> 00:39:48.275
declaration of conflict of
interest. 8.13. Yeah. Page 103
of the business papers. Item

00:39:48.309 --> 00:39:56.216
8.38.3, which is the
modification? Can I finish well?
Move 8.3 with the deletion of

00:39:56.250 --> 00:40:00.654
12 point condition 12.5 second.
Yeah. Now for the information
of the gallery. This relates to

00:40:00.688 --> 00:40:06.727
the Woolpack hotel
modifications. Yeah. Briefly I
got a seconder didn't I. Yeah

00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:14.468
okay. At the end again it's the
same same argument as with wine.
It's a compliant development.

00:40:14.501 --> 00:40:20.607
There's no issue with it except.
The condition 12.5 which is
about to be deleted. Retains

00:40:20.641 --> 00:40:26.547
pertains to a skylight which
the applicant wants to put in,
which the advisor said no, but

00:40:26.580 --> 00:40:34.254
he's quite happy to throw solar
panels all over the roof, so it
just seems a silly, silly thing

00:40:34.288 --> 00:40:40.527
to go on if they want to put a
skylight in to lighten up the
area, then let them. That's it.

00:40:40.561 --> 00:40:46.734
Any other speakers? Yeah, I
agree with Councilor Shelley on
on exactly what he said. Look,

00:40:46.767 --> 00:40:54.208
look the there being
overofficious our advisors and
I really don't have much faith

00:40:54.241 --> 00:41:02.182
in the current heritage
advisors. The new one that what
the thing they were trying to

00:41:02.216 --> 00:41:14.194
block is facing Foreign Place
carpark. You can't even see it.
It's an absolute absurdity. So

00:41:14.228 --> 00:41:26.206
yeah thoroughly recommend what
we've done. I'll put the motion.
All those in favour? Yeah.

00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:36.216
Unanimous. Thank you. You did a
good job there, ally. You're.
Yeah. Jesus, I like that next

00:41:36.250 --> 00:41:42.456
one. You're going. You'll get
the job next. Next time comes
up. Right. He's had a good run.

00:41:42.489 --> 00:41:48.562
That bloke up there that's won
32 councillors move 8.4, 8.4.
The draft bushfire land map and

00:41:48.595 --> 00:41:56.537
endorsement Councilor Cornish
and Palmer. I was gonna block
them all. It dawns on me. I

00:41:56.570 --> 00:42:04.578
don't care. Any discussion, no
discussion on that motion. All
those in favour? All right. Yes.

00:42:04.611 --> 00:42:08.615
Nobody's against carried.
Unanimous 133. We go to 137.
137 is the monthly development

00:42:08.649 --> 00:42:14.621
application processing and
determinations. Councillor move.
Councillor Lang second

00:42:14.655 --> 00:42:22.396
councillor Dicker any
discussion on those councillors.
No discussion. I'll put the

00:42:22.429 --> 00:42:28.368
motion. All those in favour
against unanimous carried 145.
Move. 8.6 May fire eight solar

00:42:28.402 --> 00:42:32.372
farm move. Councillor Shelley
and the second of Councillor
Cornish on the voluntary

00:42:32.406 --> 00:42:36.777
planning agreement with the
Mayfield Solar Farm. Any
discussion or questions?

00:42:36.810 --> 00:42:42.416
Councillors, I'd just like to
say I don't think we give
enough money out of these

00:42:42.449 --> 00:42:46.720
people. I know we're getting as
much as what we can get, but
for the damage they do onto our

00:42:46.753 --> 00:42:52.693
roads and everything around, we
should be getting a lot more
money. We'd all agree with you,

00:42:52.726 --> 00:42:56.830
councillor. Yes. Thank you. I'd
like to thank staff for all the
effort that they actually

00:42:56.864 --> 00:43:04.204
undertake. The rez is a huge
strain on our staff resources
when they're spending

00:43:04.238 --> 00:43:08.475
approximately 50% of their time
undertaking and dealing with
this issue, it's great to see

00:43:08.509 --> 00:43:14.281
that you're advocating as hard
as you can for our region and
trying to get as much as you

00:43:14.314 --> 00:43:20.387
can, always, regardless of what
the state guidelines state. So
thank you very much. And I can

00:43:20.420 --> 00:43:28.128
add to that. Our council has
been a trailblazer in
negotiating vpas with renewable

00:43:28.162 --> 00:43:32.266
energy zones and most of the
other councillors. Now councils
are following suit. So I think

00:43:32.299 --> 00:43:40.240
the staff I know it takes a lot
of time. They're a bloody
headache. But anyway, it is

00:43:40.274 --> 00:43:48.482
what it is. 145 did I put that
motion? All those in favour?
Nobody against carried? No. 145

00:43:48.515 --> 00:43:56.390
we go to 148 148. Corporate
services from the councillor
Palmer. You look out for this

00:43:56.423 --> 00:44:06.133
one. Yeah. Yes. Move. 9.19.1.
Councillor Shelley and
Councillor. Yes, but let me

00:44:06.166 --> 00:44:10.404
just catch up. Yeah. So that
was a pretty good. Did you move
result there. Yeah. Yep. Thanks.

00:44:10.437 --> 00:44:18.178
Good result by councillor on
that little block up there. All
those in favour of that motion

00:44:18.212 --> 00:44:26.153
that's before you against
carried unanimous please
councillor back into the room.

00:44:26.186 --> 00:44:34.161
Move 9.2. Councillor.
Councillor Palmer gets back in.
We're up to 9.2. Councillor

00:44:34.194 --> 00:44:38.498
Thompson not 9.7. 9.2.
Councillor Palmer on page 150.
Councillor Thompson has moved

00:44:38.532 --> 00:44:50.177
that. Is that correct?
Councillor Thompson yeah. And a
second, a Councilor Karavas.

00:44:50.210 --> 00:44:56.383
Lang. Sorry, you're quicker
than me. They do look alike.
One. I'll put any discussion on

00:44:56.416 --> 00:45:06.293
the finance bags grants. Okay.
I've only got discussing the
grants. We don't get enough. Oh

00:45:06.326 --> 00:45:16.136
man. Page 150. All those in
favour. Right against. Against
no one. Councillor Thompson.

00:45:16.169 --> 00:45:24.211
For against. Oh, I sung out
against. I didn't see your lips
move. Page 161 amended fees for.

00:45:24.244 --> 00:45:32.319
Move. Councillor and councillor
Palmer. Any discussion on those
fees? Councillors. No

00:45:32.352 --> 00:45:38.392
discussion. Put the motion. All
those in favour against nobody
carried unanimous the naming of

00:45:38.425 --> 00:45:44.798
a road on page 164 9.4. In the
subdivision of Lower Pine bomb
moved Councillor Thompson and

00:45:44.831 --> 00:45:52.239
second and Councillor Cornish
any discussion on those. No
discussion. Put the motion. All

00:45:52.272 --> 00:46:02.482
those in favour. Carried. I
didn't hear. Sorry. Councillor
prior, did you speak first?

00:46:02.516 --> 00:46:14.161
Then. Sorry, I didn't hear you.
160 move 9.5 to 9.70. Sorry.
Okay. Go on. Sorry. Move 9.5 to

00:46:14.194 --> 00:46:20.300
9.51 at a time. Seconded.
Councillor Shelley, second
councillor Kauravas 9.5. Any

00:46:20.334 --> 00:46:34.181
discussion on that? No
discussion. Put the motion. All
those in favour against? Nobody

00:46:34.214 --> 00:46:44.491
against. Carried. Page 178 when
you get seated. Yes, councillor.
Yeah. Good opportunity. I'm 138.

00:46:44.524 --> 00:46:50.530
147. 2.1 of the statement of
investments on page 178
councillor move. Councillor,

00:46:50.564 --> 00:47:00.574
second councillor Palmer. Any
discussion on that. No
discussion. Put the motion. All

00:47:00.607 --> 00:47:06.546
those in favour. 185 is monthly
budget review for August 2025
move. Councillor Thompson.

00:47:06.580 --> 00:47:18.158
Second councillor Lang. Any
discussion on those monthly
budget review? No discussion.

00:47:18.191 --> 00:47:26.166
I'll put that motion.
Councillors, all those in
favour against move one second.

00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:30.237
On page 207. Are we up to
councillors. Yeah. Yeah. And
what are we. What are we

00:47:30.270 --> 00:47:36.109
rushing to move their jet
patcher. Oh we got a jet
patcher do we. I'd like second

00:47:36.143 --> 00:47:40.547
that. Everyone compliments the
councillor Thompson. Can we buy
it? Yesterday councillor

00:47:40.580 --> 00:47:46.686
Shelley and Councilor Cornish
have moved and seconded that
motion. It doesn't matter if

00:47:46.720 --> 00:47:54.461
you want it through, don't you?
Doesn't matter. I like to speak
on it though. Matter, man. Move

00:47:54.494 --> 00:48:00.434
it. I've already congratulated
our Director of Operations for.
Finally we're going to get a

00:48:00.467 --> 00:48:04.371
jet patcher. I've been fighting
to get another jet patcher in
there ever since we amalgamated

00:48:04.404 --> 00:48:08.575
with Rolleston. Had one down
there and they've sold it and
we've never been able to get

00:48:08.608 --> 00:48:18.318
another one. So if you drive
around the roads around and I
went around with, with the

00:48:18.351 --> 00:48:22.589
director of operation down that
Bylong Valley way and while I
was out there and seen all the

00:48:22.622 --> 00:48:28.261
holes out there, all that we've
got all these potholes and we
need another one and we need

00:48:28.295 --> 00:48:32.632
people to work it. We need them
to get busy. Now. We're not the
only one with them. We got I

00:48:32.666 --> 00:48:36.670
went right up to the other side
of Tamworth a couple of days
ago, and there's a lot of very

00:48:36.703 --> 00:48:40.440
bad roads up there with
potholes in them to.
Unfortunately, there were some

00:48:40.474 --> 00:48:46.613
right across the road that I
couldn't miss, but I'm very
pleased that we're finally

00:48:46.646 --> 00:48:58.325
going to get another one. So am
I. Thank you councillor. Put
that motion. All those in

00:48:58.358 --> 00:49:04.297
favour against carried against
two 237 major. Palmer in
Cornish. Yes. On page ten. Item

00:49:04.331 --> 00:49:10.170
10.2. Yeah. Any discussion on
that councillors? No discussion.
Put the motion. Sorry

00:49:10.203 --> 00:49:14.574
councillor. Yeah. Just to say
that I'll be happy to see this
money. Get it, get moving and

00:49:14.608 --> 00:49:20.280
we can get some stuff done
because we're severely under
budgeted by the state

00:49:20.313 --> 00:49:24.484
government with their not
funding our roads, our
withdrawing funding that they

00:49:24.518 --> 00:49:30.190
gave us from the year before.
So they can build buildings and
tunnels. That's right. So

00:49:30.223 --> 00:49:34.461
they're not not giving us much.
So I'm just glad that this is
getting done. So through you.

00:49:34.494 --> 00:49:40.567
Mr. Just for clarification,
clarification about how that
works, just a question to or

00:49:40.600 --> 00:49:46.206
can we ask them just to explain?
I can oh, you can do that. Yeah.
Thank you. Through you, Mr.

00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:52.212
Mayor, this this is not $2
million that's been given to us.
Now, this is to set a budget.

00:49:52.245 --> 00:49:56.650
This is not $2 million that has
been given to us. Now, this is
setting a budget of a maximum

00:49:56.683 --> 00:50:04.291
of $2 million that we can
collect from developers as jobs
come up for repairs and works

00:50:04.324 --> 00:50:10.497
from particularly renewable
project proponents. Can we get
it in the back? It's a good

00:50:10.530 --> 00:50:20.407
idea. I don't think I'll put
that motion yet. All those in
favour? Yes, Gary, I move 11.1

00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:28.381
to 12.3. 11.1 is the community
Recreation Strategy post
exhibition. Yes. Summer second

00:50:28.415 --> 00:50:34.421
11.1. 12.1 is the audit, Risk
and Improvement Committee
minutes. The 12.2 is a sports

00:50:34.454 --> 00:50:42.195
advisory grounds update meeting
minutes 12.3 is a local
transport forum. Minutes from

00:50:42.228 --> 00:50:50.303
August 25th. Seconded. I think
we've got a mover and a
seconder. Oh yeah I'll put

00:50:50.337 --> 00:50:56.643
those motion. Councillor. Thank
you. Just wanted to comment on
the recreation. Strategy. Yeah.

00:50:56.676 --> 00:51:04.451
Point one that I think it's
fantastic that we've lifted the
indoor swimming pool to become

00:51:04.484 --> 00:51:14.194
a priority. This council I just
think it's it's one of our
biggest needs in the town of

00:51:14.227 --> 00:51:22.302
Mudgee. Yeah, yeah. Step on the
railway line. Open up some. Oh
sorry I forgot. Thank you.

00:51:22.335 --> 00:51:34.180
Sorry sorry, sorry I forgot
about the jet patcher. That's
very unanimous. And saving

00:51:34.214 --> 00:51:38.418
money. Go to the conference. Oh.
They moved the confidential
session on page 271 and

00:51:38.451 --> 00:51:46.226
Councilor Palmer and Councillor
Decker could be going to
confidential. I'm really glad

00:51:46.259 --> 00:51:52.565
we got it in. The reason we're
going into confidential, the
general manager. The reason is

00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:58.304
14.1 is the dedication of land
for the dedication of land, for
road opening and road closure

00:51:58.338 --> 00:52:02.709
on Bonds Road. Hargraves. And
the reason for dealing with
this report confidentially is

00:52:02.742 --> 00:52:08.415
that it relates to information
that would, if disclosed,
confer a commercial advantage

00:52:08.448 --> 00:52:14.521
on a person for whom council is
conducting business in
accordance with section 1082 of

00:52:14.554 --> 00:52:20.193
the Local Government Act and
14.2 is the request for
financial assistance public

00:52:20.226 --> 00:52:24.497
liability claim. The reason for
dealing with this report
confidentially is that it

00:52:24.531 --> 00:52:30.336
relates to discussions in
relation to a personal hardship
of a resident or ratepayer, in

00:52:30.370 --> 00:52:36.113
accordance with section ten A
to B of the Local Government
Act, and there has been no

00:52:36.232 --> 00:52:44.328
written submissions other than
a public speaker on item 14.2 today.

00:52:44.473 --> 00:52:47.185
So you've got that in front of you. Councillor

00:52:50.213 --> 00:52:54.884
Oh, right. So confidential.
Brad, the recommendations on

00:52:54.917 --> 00:53:00.423
14.1 was that council received
the report by the property
coordinator on the dedication

00:53:00.456 --> 00:53:04.560
of the land at Bonds Road.
Hargraves authorised the
general manager to enter into a

00:53:04.594 --> 00:53:10.366
deed of agreement for the
dedication of the land,
resolved to close the section

00:53:10.399 --> 00:53:16.272
of the unformed gazetted road
reserve being the area
approximately 4680m². Amend the

00:53:16.305 --> 00:53:22.245
2526 budget to allocate a
compensation payment.
Authorised the General Manager

00:53:22.278 --> 00:53:26.149
and the mayor, if required, to
complete and execute all
documentation and authorise the

00:53:26.182 --> 00:53:32.488
Common Seal of the Council to
be affixed to all
documentations where necessary.

00:53:32.522 --> 00:53:38.094
The second one was 14.2, which
is the request for financial
assistance, and that Council

00:53:38.127 --> 00:53:44.433
received the report by the
Governance Coordinator on the
request. Financial assistance.

00:53:44.467 --> 00:53:54.377
Note the advice from the
council's insurer. Note the
exceptional circumstances this

00:53:54.410 --> 00:54:00.416
matter and yeah, but it should
be. Dot accepts no liability
for further but further to this

00:54:00.449 --> 00:54:06.222
part. As part of no set, no
liability and as part of a
goodwill gesture. The next

00:54:06.255 --> 00:54:11.366
point that council staff
complete the repair of the
driveway and pay a 1000 without

00:54:11.393 --> 00:54:18.156
prejudice to the applicant.
Thank you councillors, thank

00:54:18.195 --> 00:54:21.992
you for your attendance and the time is 7:22pm