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 the microphones on the gases. Today

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is the 20th of August 2025.

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 I look around table there are no

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apologies. I'll ask the general manager

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to do the acknowledgement of country

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please.

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 I'd like to acknowledge the

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traditional owners of the lands on which

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we meet the Wiradjuri People and pay our respects

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to Elders past, present and emerging.

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I Disclose

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 no disclosure of interest council on

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the business paper of tonight

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 matters in progress nothing there for

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completion that's

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confirmation of the minutes

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of the sorry confirmation of the minutes

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our last meeting on the 16th of July

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somebody moved Palmer and Cornish all

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those in favour against nobody carried

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nothing on post on the matters in

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progress so we go to the ? community

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Hall funding from listed by notice of

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motion by councelor Cornish. Thank you.

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 thank you Mr. Mayor.  Mr. Mayor,

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under advice from council officers.

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There's no second.

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Second.

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Under advice from council officers, I

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intend withdrawing this motion and

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moving it to 9.1 to be added on to the

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community grants

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 for the ? Hall for tonight for a

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sum of $25,000.

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 and I'll speak to it then if

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necessary.

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So it's withdrawal.

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Withdrawal.

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Yeah. Thank you, Councilor Cornish.

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 page 40 listed by 

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councelor Dicker. Councelor

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Dicker, would you like to move that?

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Second, councelor

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 Shelley.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you,

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councelor Shelley, for the second. 

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councilors, what you have before you is

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a motion to ask council to look at the

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feasibility of having a transportable

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accessible amenity for our region.

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 given the most recent discussion

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about amenities within the area, I feel

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it's quite important that we have a look

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at this option and see if that is more

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cost-effective for our region as opposed

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to having a permanent facility 

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and how we can look at that strategy 

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and move forward so we do get the right

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items for our area. All the amenities

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unfortunately have quite a bit of 

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cost affiliated with them and so if we

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can be smart with with the design and

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what our region needs I feel that's best

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for our area  and I hope you all

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support. Thank you.

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Any discussion on this? No discussion.

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I'll put the motion. All those in favor

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carried unanimous page 7A listed by councilor

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Prior 

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Sorry, I missed you. 

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Councelor Thompson's got a notice of

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motion in  on page 16 about the

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ceiling of her at Medley Street. This is

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by council. Seconded by councelor

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Cornish

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Thompson.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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the Gulgong

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these three streets and main

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street you didn't mention is the most

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the famous town in Australia because it

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put on a major note that's the only town

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that's ever been put on a major note and

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the importance of these streets been try

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and kept to look like the past is very

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important to the people of Gulgong but it

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should be important to you as the mayor

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because you're leading this council and

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Gulgongs include men  It's

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important that we can try and keep this

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same colour.

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To come up to say that  for the people

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who lay the bitumen, they're not going to

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guarantee the job.

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The last the when this got done as 25

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years ago and it's still in 

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reasonable condition. I wouldn't say

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it's very good. It needs replacing.

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So if these people won't guarantee their

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job, how they could how they guarantee

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their job to when they lay the bitumen

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more around the shire. I live on the

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mobile road. They've done in the last

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few years they've done they got money

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from the state government because it's a

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bus run and they done extra 5ks on it.

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It's cut up all the way along and it's

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only a couple of years ago since it was

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done. So are they guaranteeing their

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jobs? Pity they  wouldn't be

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able to guarantee that. They might have

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to do it all again.

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So if there are other surely there's

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other people who are willing to do the

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job like we've done before and with the

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same aggregate the director of

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operations said the aggregate is

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available. So for the police, the people

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of Gulgong

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this is so important to them to try and

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keep the place the way it is because

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it's a major attraction in our Shire and

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that's why I say you as the mayor of the

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Shire should be supporting it. Mr. Mayor 

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Gulgong is the main attraction for tourists

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visiting our shire they got three museums there as

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well as the opera house and there's a

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huge amount of people come to Gulgong to

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see our famous town so that's why the

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people of Gulgong and you've had I

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suppose you've read them I know you're

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pretty busy having the same job before

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 how busy you can be and you can't

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catch up with everything but we've had

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two letters from people in Gulgong who

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 helped look after the

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history of Gulgong, all the heritage

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buildings, everything, Morris Gordy and

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and the jewelifier. And

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they've worked that hard as volunteers

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for Gulgong and there's volunteers

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everywhere they're working out running

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the museum doing everything about for

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nothing just to trying to keep out our

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town as famous as what it is. So, we

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need to make sure it's done with the

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right coloured stone. It's not 

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 a job. We're not going to do

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the whole of Main Street. It's only the

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most important thing part of part of 

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well from the Henry Lawson Center up to

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where the honey place is now in 

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Herbert Street from near the council

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chamber down past the famous museum,

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one of the famous museums in Australia.

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the Pioneer Museum. I knew one of the

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fellows who started up, Don Curry. I

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used to pick up stuff out the Sharon

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said to bring him in for him. And 

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down in Medley Street from back near the

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police station just down past

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Kelly's where the house that Henry

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Lawson's father built, a famous heritage

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house. That's all we asking for.

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Thompson, while you're on your feet, can

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I ask you a question? Yeah.

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Do you remember the name of the person

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you spoke to at Boral that said that

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they could supply the stone so we could

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guarantee the job?

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The person you spoke to at Boral?

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No, I couldn't. But I spoke to him

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yesterday.

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Yeah.

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And they said they haven't got it there

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anymore. He did have it. Remembered when

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I talked to him about it

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before, but he said they don't have it,

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but there'll be plenty of places that

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have it at the river gravel and it's the

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ideal place for it. And I said, "These

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people are saying they can't guarantee

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it." And I said, "But the others have

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been there for 25 years." As I said,

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"This afternoon, you got these doing

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donuts in this main street and

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everything. There wasn't no one around.

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But it hasn't cut up. So I don't know

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why they can't guarantee it and do the

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same job again. Surely there if these

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people won't guarantee their job, surely

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there's other people out there that can

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do it."

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Of

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course there is. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Anybody else like to speak on the

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matter?

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with the motion. All those in favor

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gets

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motion is

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carried.

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Carried.

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So page 17 is a reclassification of

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community land at Red Hill by councilor

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Prior. Councilor Prior something move and

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second. Councilor Prior move. Second

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Cornish

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Cornish.

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Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I've 

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brought this motion to council because I

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was pretty concerned about how item 8.2

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at the last meeting  was taken through

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council and approved.  it's my belief

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that this particular lot of land should

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never have been included in the

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reclassification from community land to

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operational land.  the miner's cottage

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at Red Hill is a very significant

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site. It was the first site of 

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where gold was discovered  it has 

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a lot of respect within the GolGulgong

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community. It's been a focal point for

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meetings and gatherings and I strongly

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believe that it should remain 

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decisions about this particular site 

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within the hands of the community. 

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I noticed in the officer's comments that

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this is going to go through a gateway

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process, a planning proposal. It'll come

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back, possibly have a public hearing.

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we'll go out on submission. My

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concern is it's not going to matter

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really how much the residents  and the

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community  objects to this proposal.

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It still has to come back to the council

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chamber to be voted on.  there's no

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guarantee that the councilors will

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listen to the concerns of the community

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and vote in that regard. It'll be

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entirely up to the whim of the

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councilors  on the decision that they

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make.  I believe that it is such an

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important site that the community

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should have oversight on its use.  if

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it is retained in a community land plan

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of management  the community will have

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significant say in how that land is

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actually managed and what developments

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take place on it rather than as I

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said with a change of council possibly

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it comes back to the whim of whatever

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the councilors decide to use that land

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for and I don't believe that that's in

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the community's interest  so I present

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this to council to vote on now rather

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them to come back when the planning

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proposal goes through and it goes out on

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public submission and the councilers may

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have a sympathetic ear to the concerns

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of the community. I think it should be

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done now  and save us all the grief of

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going through it again at a later date.

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Thank you

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speaker. Any further speakers?

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Yeah, someone want to speak against

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I've just got one thing to say to

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council. I'd rather not you refer to the

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other counselors as to what decisions

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they may make in the future. I don't

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think that's in your charter.

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I'm not actually saying what the

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counselors with will decide.

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Not in my charter.

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I looked I looked around the room and I

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think that's why we

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Okay, that was not the intention. But it

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will entirely be up to the whim of the

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councilors at the time a decision on

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that land takes place.

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Thank you councelor.  any speakers for

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or against? Councelor Thompson, you're

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all against the motion. Mr. Mayor,

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as I said earlier, how important Gulgong

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is as a tourist center and as a heritage

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town and we need to keep our heritage

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and look after it. And the most

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important part of the heritage of Golden

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was where Red Hill where the gold was

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found.

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Found by Saunders. He was shephering

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sheep for the rousers from Gundwing. He

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found this gold on top of the ground

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there.

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He filled his saddle bags up, rode a

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two-mile flat because there was already

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gold miner and  mining for diamonds

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there and registered he pegged his

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pegged his claim out before he left. and

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he registered his claim claim with the

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the sergeant there

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within two years. This is in 1870.

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Within two years there 20,000 people

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digging gold around Gulgong. Henry Law

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School called it said Henry Lawson said

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there was people from every nationality.

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GolGulgong was the hub of the world he

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called it. So 

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this spot there on Red Hill is is in

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community hands is community land. It

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should be kept that way.

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I might just this bar charter Mr. Mayor

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I don't know whether you've read it or

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not but this was commissioned by the

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council and paid for by the council in

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2013 and it would carry unanimously by

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the council today.

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Why I conserve places of culture

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significance in rich people's lives

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often providing a deep and inspirational

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sense of connection to the community and

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landscape to the past and to the lived

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experiences. They are historical records

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that are important expression of a

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healthy identity and experience.

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Places of cultural significance reflect

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the diversity of our communities telling

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us about who we are and the past that

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has formed us and the Australian

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landscape. They are irreplaceable and

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precious.

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Right? That's why we want to keep it

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keep it as a community place that was

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used by the people during the gold

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mining days. Over a around a billion

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dollars of of dollars worth of gold was

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dug out of that area. That's how

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important it is to Gulgong. That's where

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Gulgong all grew from. There'd be no gold

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Gulgong if it wasn't for for radial where

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the gold was found. And that's why it's

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so important

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if this motion goes through tonight, it

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stays the way it is under community

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plan. And with the 

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plan of management, which we're already

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doing for Red Hill, it can be included

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into it. It's going to cost $5,000 to do

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it extra. What's 5,000 to keep the most

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precious thing in our SH probably where

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the gold was found there? So we need to

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instead of if you don't vote for this

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tonight, you'll find out it's going to

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go on and on and on. You're going to

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have all these people at Gulgong like

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they did when you wanted to put the big

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building up on radio. They're already

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been ringing me up about it. So if you

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want to go through a rigma roll again,

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vote against it. If you want to keep

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this precious spot in the hands of the

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community,

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vote for vote for the motion.

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Good run.

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Mr. Mayor, can I just ask a question to

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the officer? I just want to clarify.

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We're not talking Oh, sorry.

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Just the question. We're not talking

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about the whole of Red Hill, are we?

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We're talking about one little loft

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where the cafe is or the little top.

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Yeah, the cottage is. That's the only

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part. And that

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is the the cottage itself.

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Right. Thank you.

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And why we asked for the

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reclassification? Because we What?

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Just tell the people. So the um

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classification  is currently community

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land. So  the land was purchased after

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90 days it fell into community 

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classification.  the aim is to

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reclassify that as operational land. So

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it adds flexibility um to the use case

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of that site being Red Hill Cottage

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itself.

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That's Shelleyly next.

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One thing I've always hated

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is scare mongering.

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It does a disservice to the community

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because of someone else's opinion.

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Now, I'll talk about this more when it

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actually comes back to council, but the

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reason we go out on 20-day exhibition or

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any period of exhibition is to get

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community input and responses to it. In

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the last 20 years, I don't think I can

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ever recall a councilor putting up a

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motion to stop community's input, which

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is what this motion would do. 28 days,

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it gives all 28 days. It gives people

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the opportunity to comment, make

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suggestions.

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We take bring it around the table and we

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use it to base our decisions on. If this

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motion gets up tonight, it's stopping

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the community having a say, and I find

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it repulsive.

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C Dicker.

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 just a question to the GM through

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you, Mr. Mayor.  what fund does the um

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plan of management come out of the

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approximate 5,000? Where where's that

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money come from?

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 thank you.

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Through you, Mr. Mayor. It would come

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out of  unrestricted cash. We did get

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some funding previously for other lands

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from grants, but um no, but we're not

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proposing to do that at this point.

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as for the cottage.

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Um just one question  through him, Mr.

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Mayor, is with the the use of the

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cottage as a cafe the way it is under

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community land, is that legal or should

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it have to be operational land?

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 through you, Mr. Mayor.  no, it is

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not legal. That's why we're trying to

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have it as operational land. So we're

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meeting the requirements of operational

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land that have that flexibility. So it

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become operational land like every other

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bit of land in

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so just that cottage is being changed so

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it makes it legal is that what is what

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correct okay thank you

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yeah cas you have the right of reply

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I'd just like to address that um issue

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of legality um the legal operation of

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the miners cottage cafe and museum can

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be incorporated into the community land

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plan land plan land plan land plan land

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plan land plan land plan land plan land

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plan land plan land of management so um

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to be converted to operational land is

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not really strictly speaking a valid

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argument. Um councelor Shelley's comment

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that we're restricting community input

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into the decision of um this particular

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site. Um it is and has been community

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land for quite some time, like a long

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time. um it only comes up to debate

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about what to use it for because council

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wishes to change it to operational land

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and I doubt that there's been a

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significant amount of um community

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consultation on that particular step

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right from the very beginning. Thank

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you.

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Made no sense enough on that.  so the

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notice of motion is read. All those in

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favor

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against

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lost

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public consultation now anybody wants to

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make it

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ridiculous.

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Now we go we're in a bit of a bloody

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development.

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Mr. Mayor

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page 20 council focus please.

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Itemate the development of the side

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boundary fence at 48 court. I'd like to

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move a motion, please.

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Motion.

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No motion.

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And the motion reads. Now we have it.

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Um, , point one, the council received

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the report by the train planner, ,

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proposed site, boundary fence, front

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fence, and rainwater tanks at 48 C

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Street, Maji.  number two, approve

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development application DA0141

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/2025

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in full persuant to section 4.16 of the

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environmental planning and assessment

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act 1979

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for the construction of  number one

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the MU wire style front boundary fence.

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 number oh sorry point two rather the

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two water tanks and point three a side

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boundary fence in the same location and

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height as proposed subject to

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modification of materials. .3 which is

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all up here um impose the following

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specific requirement in relation to the

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side boundary fence.

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Um point one on that the side boundary

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fences to be constructed of timber or

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timberlook aluminium powder coated

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aluminium or another high quality metal

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material that replicates the the

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appearance sorry rather the appearance

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of traditional timber fencing to the

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satisfaction of council. And point two

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um plain colorbond fencing is not

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permitted.

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and my point for um all other conditions

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of consent recommend recommended in the

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council report remain.

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Second that

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and

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you want to make amendment. Can I just

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ask a question just to you got a motion

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in front of

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I just amendment

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I just want to ask more about

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the motion is moved your reference is

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the same location are we is that

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something we can enforce when when

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they've talked about a boundary dispute

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I think

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well I don't think I concerns

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issue over saying they need to put it in

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the same location as where it is now

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if there's a stand the fence is now on

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48 court street land. Is that correct?

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Well, that's it's disputed I think over

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there knows a bit about this please.

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So I I can't discuss the boundary what

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is correct or not correct but the

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implication would be that where there is

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a where in the DA it's currently stated

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to put a fence to put the fence with the

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materials that the council has

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specified. So it is per what is already

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in the DA applications. There's no

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I'm just trying to understand what we'll

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get. Right.

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Yeah. That's what is implied here.

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I'd like to move an amendment.

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My amendment is that the first if you

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look at the plan

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is there been a second to the motion?

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Yes, sir.

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Sorry.

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My amendment is that the back portion

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that you can't see if you drive along

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the street that is from

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I reckon we I worked it out to about

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the the step down bit of the 1.2 m

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should be timber or something of a like

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but the from the all the 1.8 could be

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colorbond if you buy a colorbond brocher

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to put a color bond fence up. There is a

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full page on heritage colors for

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colorbond fencing. I don't get that how

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how that would be any different to a

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timber look aluminium powder coated

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aluminium or other high quality metal

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when you can buy colorbond fencing with

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a heritage color. It's there's a

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brochure that

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right

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so

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you amendment so I'll speak about it now

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because that 1.8 eight section at the

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back is on p if you look at

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page 29

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if page 20 yeah 29 if you have a look so

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that I'm I'm estimating who's a plan

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over there with very good eyes that can

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read the distance of the 1.2 m step down

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how long would that be 6 m I worked out

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is that correct

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there's three pedals of fence and 2.4

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2.4 1.2 do no 6 m. So yeah, I I can

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understand that should be more receptive

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to than a bit of column on there maybe.

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I I don't I don't really agree with that

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either.

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 but so it should be timber, not look

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alike.

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At least I'm not I've seen a fair few

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timber fence pros. I've never seen it

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look alike. You get that white plastic

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stuff that looks like white plastic.

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You're talking about the front now.

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The front. I'm talking about the front.

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I think the all the the distance that's

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the 1.8 my amendment says the 1.8

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caliber and the the bit from the front

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to the street I think it's approximately

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5 or 6 m should be timber or or

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sympathetic to the heritage world

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yeah council carav

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yeah I just did the motion briefly yeah

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um councilors are all the way how much

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time I've spent on this so hopefully

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tonight we can come to some it's going

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to be resolved

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I know we have to come to an end of it

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so anyway um look my my motion um I I

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think it seems like and with respect to

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Amy's comment about um where the current

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dispute is um I think this is fair on

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both sides or as fair as  a meeting

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point the council can offer. Um and

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that's why why I brought this to

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council. Um I can also understand yeah

00:25:23.679 --> 00:25:26.216
both both sides of the story here but um

00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.296
both sides of the fence if you will but

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yeah so um

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that's the reason I brought this up and

00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:34.296
yeah

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just get it done. Yeah,

00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.096
yeah. No, I've got a question. Quick

00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:41.176
quick question. Now, I I understand that

00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.096
the DA is going through, right? We'll

00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:45.255
make a decision tonight hopefully.

00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.135
And we'll get some sort of, you know,

00:25:48.159 --> 00:25:50.936
result. Guarantee you someone's not

00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:52.296
going to like it, but it's going to

00:25:52.320 --> 00:25:53.416
happen.

00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.376
But my main my main my main question my

00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:59.400
main question is when the DA goes

00:25:59.760 --> 00:26:01.176
through and because there's still a

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.655
dispute about the boundary line

00:26:03.679 --> 00:26:04.856
obviously the fence ain't going to be

00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.880
built until the boundaries um

00:26:09.120 --> 00:26:10.296
worry

00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:11.976
excuse me

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until until it's the boundaries actually

00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.296
being resolved is is that right

00:26:16.320 --> 00:26:17.736
well I'm not sure I'm not up with that

00:26:17.760 --> 00:26:19.416
side of things

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is the planning can you enlighten us

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there.

00:26:23.840 --> 00:26:25.255
It's a legal matter in terms of the

00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:26.775
boundary issues. So, we can't make

00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:28.696
comments on it.

00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:29.976
So, they've got to the neighbors have

00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:30.856
got to sort that out.

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All right. No worries.

00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:35.255
Yeah. Now, council Thompson, you can't

00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.096
hear anything about gold.

00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:40.120
Thank you.

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Yeah. Thank you.

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through you to the planner. Is current

00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:50.760
is colorbond acceptable

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.880
as a heritage in a heritage area?

00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:56.936
This may know color bond fencing is not

00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.416
particularly um in regards is not

00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:00.775
acceptable particularly in regards to a

00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.176
heritage list item in our region. So the

00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.816
DCP does not support colorbond fencing

00:27:05.840 --> 00:27:07.496
on the boundary of a heritage listed

00:27:07.520 --> 00:27:08.056
house.

00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:10.616
How come the mayor said it acceptable?

00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:11.096
What you said?

00:27:11.120 --> 00:27:13.096
I didn't say it's acceptable. That's

00:27:13.120 --> 00:27:14.616
what I thought. I got a bit mixed up.

00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:15.655
What did you say?

00:27:15.679 --> 00:27:17.096
No, I said if you want to go and buy a

00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:19.336
color bon fence, there's a whole vure on

00:27:19.360 --> 00:27:21.336
heritage colors. That doesn't mean that

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ticks the box of whoever we pay to do

00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:23.976
our

00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:25.255
heritage consultancy.

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The reason why I asked the question, Mr.

00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:28.135
Mayor, is because

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So they're telling us

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I believe if you're the person that's

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paying for something, you should be able

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to have what you have as long as it

00:27:33.840 --> 00:27:36.616
meets the requirements of council.

00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:38.216
They're telling us it doesn't.

00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.240
Going back 30 37 years ago, Mr. Mayor

00:27:42.080 --> 00:27:45.080
Arthur Bracken will be building the the

00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.440
 center up there in in Main Street in

00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.015
in Church Street and a council put up

00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.255
that he wanted different window to what

00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:54.535
they wanted

00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:56.456
and I said at that time he's paying for

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it. He should be able to have what he

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want and he did get it and they're still

00:27:59.679 --> 00:28:01.736
there all this time later.

00:28:01.760 --> 00:28:04.056
So I believe whatever the person wants

00:28:04.080 --> 00:28:06.296
to do long as they're acceptable to the

00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:08.375
council they should be able to have it

00:28:08.399 --> 00:28:10.535
if they're paying for it. Just because

00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.456
neighbors come and say we don't want it,

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:14.135
we want something different, they're not

00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:15.816
the ones that are applying for it. As

00:28:15.840 --> 00:28:17.496
long as it fits the requirements, they

00:28:17.520 --> 00:28:18.535
should be allowed to have it.

00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.216
Thank you, Castle Le.

00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.135
With all due respect to your amendment,

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Mr. Mayor,

00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.816
I think you're wrong. It's very simple

00:28:27.840 --> 00:28:30.456
to put up a timber fence, a party fence.

00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.296
I've got one at my place. I've had there

00:28:32.320 --> 00:28:34.856
about 6 months. It took a day to put it

00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.880
up. Didn't cost an arm and a leg. So

00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.176
simple. It looks good.

00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.416
It abides by the laws of the council.

00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.416
Why wouldn't we go ahead and recommend

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.440
al councelor Kar's

00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:51.336
motion? Sounds very simple to me.

00:28:51.360 --> 00:28:53.336
Is yours timber look alike or timber

00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:55.976
counselor?

00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.216
He's sitting on the fence.

00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:00.296
What? What's he thinking about it?

00:29:00.320 --> 00:29:02.056
I painted it black and it took me two

00:29:02.080 --> 00:29:04.216
days to paint it. Sorry about that.

00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.015
Took you a while to make up your mind.

00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:09.255
I've had enough discussion. Well, the

00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:10.616
put the amendment withdrawing your

00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:11.655
amendment or

00:29:11.679 --> 00:29:14.056
all those I don't understand.

00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:17.080
All those in favor of the amendment

00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.440
345 amendment comes the motion. All

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.720
those in favor of the motion now against

00:29:28.159 --> 00:29:30.135
who won.

00:29:30.159 --> 00:29:31.655
He won.

00:29:31.679 --> 00:29:33.096
He said he didn't know what he's talking

00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:35.176
about. You the wrong thing to

00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.200
Why are you here? Why are you here?

00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:39.576
You're just being offended.

00:29:39.600 --> 00:29:42.600
Everybody watch page 41. Post exhibition

00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:43.736
planning party.

00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:44.696
Alex

00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.720
move the recommendation.

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Councelor Shelley

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.000
seconded.

00:29:54.159 --> 00:29:57.159
Any discussion on this regarding um the

00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.255
minimum lot size out of Carleon?

00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:00.375
Yeah, I have a question.

00:30:00.399 --> 00:30:03.399
Yes, councelor. Um I may have got a bit

00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.056
confused in the briefing but um with

00:30:06.080 --> 00:30:09.080
this MU1 does this um motion actually

00:30:10.320 --> 00:30:13.320
mean that the lot sizes within MU1 have

00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.480
to be a minimum 450 or they can be of

00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:19.816
any size.

00:30:19.840 --> 00:30:22.840
So that's a question for staff

00:30:23.679 --> 00:30:26.535
3M Mr.  JM

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.096
sorry just putting back together again.

00:30:29.120 --> 00:30:32.120
Um you m the minimum lot size in that

00:30:33.679 --> 00:30:36.679
area would now be 450 meters for the um

00:30:37.919 --> 00:30:39.416
the rest of the site.

00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.135
So is there any I think I know the

00:30:42.159 --> 00:30:44.296
answer but I'm asking in public. Is

00:30:44.320 --> 00:30:47.320
there any portion of that bit in the

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.375
square there that is going to remain

00:30:50.399 --> 00:30:53.336
three 300 square meters or

00:30:53.360 --> 00:30:54.936
or no minimum lot size?

00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.015
This is regarding how the dwell the lots

00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.576
for dwellings.

00:30:59.600 --> 00:31:00.696
So no,

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.775
so in the in the commercial world, the

00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.416
commercial precinct that  went through

00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.576
this council 12 years ago or 10 years

00:31:07.600 --> 00:31:10.600
ago, um I remember discussing it about

00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:13.816
leaving a section for the an IGA and a

00:31:13.840 --> 00:31:15.816
butcher shop and whatever else in 20

00:31:15.840 --> 00:31:18.616
years time or something. Is is that will

00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.640
this affect that the ability of somebody

00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.640
in that precinct to come and build a

00:31:25.760 --> 00:31:28.760
2,000 m IGA and have car parking?

00:31:29.679 --> 00:31:31.255
No,

00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:31.895
you can do it.

00:31:31.919 --> 00:31:33.336
So, you can still do it. That's all.

00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:36.360
So, just to clarify, um

00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:39.736
there is no minimum lot size within the

00:31:39.760 --> 00:31:42.760
MU1 section. Is is that true or is that

00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.736
not true? Is that not the case?

00:31:45.760 --> 00:31:48.616
Just to get it 100% clear, I'm starting

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.640
to hear that in the MU1 um the minimum

00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:54.535
lot size will be 450. It can be

00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:55.255
surrounding.

00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.255
It's only the 100 me surrounding. Yeah.

00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.279
Okay. Now I'm satisfied. Thank you.

00:32:00.320 --> 00:32:03.320
So yeah. Any further questions on this?

00:32:03.760 --> 00:32:05.495
No discussion. Put the most all those in

00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.495
favor

00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.519
against.

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.696
You against? Yeah.

00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.176
All right. against

00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.816
 page 50 is the post exhibition of the

00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:20.456
mudy airport master plan

00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.375
council Cornish second that councelor

00:32:22.399 --> 00:32:25.336
Shelley any discussion

00:32:25.360 --> 00:32:27.096
no discussion put the motion all those

00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:30.120
in favor against carried page 56 council

00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:34.216
this is monthly development applications

00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.216
processing and determinations

00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.240
move councelor palmer and dicker any

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.375
discussion on any of those councelor

00:32:42.399 --> 00:32:44.775
councelor Oh, sorry. No discussion.

00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.799
We'll put the motion. All those in favor

00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:49.976
against nobody against carried.

00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.375
Unanimous. Corporate services we go to

00:32:52.399 --> 00:32:55.399
item 9. 9.1 is the naming of an unknown

00:32:55.679 --> 00:32:58.456
road off  prices lane at Pyramol on

00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.176
page 64. Somebody move that move.

00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.336
Councelor Corny second council Palmer.

00:33:03.360 --> 00:33:05.736
Any discussion on that councilors? No.

00:33:05.760 --> 00:33:07.015
Naming of the road at Pyramol. No

00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.456
discussion to put the motion. All those

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.135
in favor?

00:33:10.159 --> 00:33:13.159
Councelor Thompson voting. Favor the

00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:16.296
eyes have it. It's carried. 9.2 naming

00:33:16.320 --> 00:33:18.616
of non-name road off Junction Road at

00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.296
Pyramol. Move. Councelor Corning. Second

00:33:20.320 --> 00:33:23.320
councelor Dicker.  any discussion on

00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:26.775
that one councilors? No discussion. I'll

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.736
put that motion. All those in favor

00:33:29.760 --> 00:33:32.760
unanimous carries. 9.3 is a council

00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.176
benchmarking report that was presented

00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.576
to us this afternoon. Councilors on page

00:33:37.600 --> 00:33:38.856
84.

00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.096
Moved councelor Palmer. Second,

00:33:41.120 --> 00:33:44.120
councelor Dick. Any discussion on that?

00:33:45.600 --> 00:33:48.600
No discussion.

00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.255
Put the motion. All those in favor?

00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:52.056
I

00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:55.080
against carried.  the budget re

00:33:55.919 --> 00:33:58.919
revotes on page 100. Move councelor

00:34:00.320 --> 00:34:03.320
Palmer second. Councelor Shelleyley.

00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.375
Any discussion on those councilors?

00:34:06.399 --> 00:34:08.296
No discussion. Any questions? No. I'll

00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.536
put that motion then. All those in favor

00:34:10.560 --> 00:34:11.176
I

00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:13.016
carried.

00:34:13.040 --> 00:34:16.040
 page 100 118 the Rston water

00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.176
treatment plant electrical switchboard

00:34:19.200 --> 00:34:21.496
and upgrades. Councelor Shelley and a

00:34:21.520 --> 00:34:24.135
second councelor Cornish.

00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.216
Any discussion on that councilors? No

00:34:26.240 --> 00:34:28.216
discussion on it. Questions? No

00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:29.736
questions. I'll put that motion. All

00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.016
those in favor?

00:34:31.040 --> 00:34:34.040
I carried unanimous policy review for

00:34:34.560 --> 00:34:37.560
community grants program on page 96.

00:34:38.240 --> 00:34:41.240
Councelor Corny second councelor Caravas

00:34:42.879 --> 00:34:45.736
any discussion on that councelor I'll

00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.536
put the motion all those in favor

00:34:48.560 --> 00:34:51.095
carried new and amended fees and charges

00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.119
on page 134 item 9.7 councilors move

00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.440
council carav second council lang any

00:34:58.640 --> 00:35:01.640
discussion on those councilors

00:35:01.839 --> 00:35:04.839
no discussion question no questions I'll

00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.496
put the motion all those in favor the

00:35:07.520 --> 00:35:09.976
eyes have carried monthly budget review

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:13.000
for July 25 on page 137. Councilors

00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:13.815
move.

00:35:13.839 --> 00:35:16.839
Palmer and council lang. Any discussion

00:35:17.359 --> 00:35:20.359
on that councilors? No discussion. Put

00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.800
the motion. All those in favor?

00:35:23.839 --> 00:35:26.216
Carried. Unanimous. Monthly statement of

00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:29.240
investments as the 31st of July on page

00:35:29.520 --> 00:35:31.095
163.

00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.696
Any questions on how much money we've

00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:34.216
got in the bank counselors? No

00:35:34.240 --> 00:35:35.976
questions.

00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.055
Or are there

00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.376
I'll put that motion then. All those in

00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.400
favor

00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:45.815
length

00:35:45.839 --> 00:35:46.616
a second.

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:47.335
All right.

00:35:47.359 --> 00:35:49.016
Now we're on p

00:35:49.040 --> 00:35:50.055
Thank you.

00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.456
910 on page 100.

00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.055
I'll move that with a couple of couple

00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.416
of changes.

00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:56.136
170.

00:35:56.160 --> 00:35:59.160
I said I got changes first.

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.416
170 years the community grants program

00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:05.976
August 2025 and we've nearly spent all

00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:06.616
their money

00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:08.456
and we're about to spend a lot more

00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.136
well this after this I mean

00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:13.160
okay so um we increase the $10,000 to

00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.696
$12,000 for Kr

00:36:16.720 --> 00:36:19.720
and we include $25,000 for the Maru

00:36:21.040 --> 00:36:24.040
community hall as per as per the um

00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.880
withdrawn motion  previously

00:36:29.359 --> 00:36:31.016
with councelor Shelley second council

00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:32.296
Cornage

00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.320
and she's done it in Russian

00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.696
any discussion and we're all happy with

00:36:38.720 --> 00:36:39.656
that now council

00:36:39.680 --> 00:36:41.896
my god you're conspiracy theorist right

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:42.776
now aren't you

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.256
put that all those in favor

00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:46.616
against hey

00:36:46.640 --> 00:36:49.256
nobody carried

00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.416
 general managers six monthly

00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.440
performance appraisal page 194 made of

00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.696
councelor Shelleyley seconded councelor

00:36:56.720 --> 00:36:58.616
Palmer.

00:36:58.640 --> 00:37:00.536
All those in favor?

00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:02.296
It's carried. We now move to operations

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.256
on 10point local 10.1 the local

00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:06.296
transport forum.

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.376
Move 10.1 and 10.2.

00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.095
10.1 is the local transport forum. Terms

00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.055
of reference and not 10.2 is the exemp

00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.936
exception for exemption from tender for

00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:18.936
the spring flat drainage program. Move

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:20.296
by councelor Shelleyik. Seconded by

00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:23.320
councelor Palmer. Any discussion on

00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:25.176
those councilors?

00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:26.936
No discussion. Put the motion. All those

00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.095
in favor I

00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.176
unanimous.

00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:33.736
Community we go on to 11.1 the solar

00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.656
road progress report. Move

00:37:35.680 --> 00:37:36.536
moved.

00:37:36.560 --> 00:37:37.416
Second.

00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.440
And Shelley and Lang.

00:37:40.640 --> 00:37:42.376
Any discussion on page 200

00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:43.016
just briefly.

00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:44.136
Yes councelor

00:37:44.160 --> 00:37:47.160
just for the more more for the um more

00:37:47.680 --> 00:37:50.680
for the public knowledge. Is it endeavor

00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.976
essential energy?

00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:55.896
When I when I first promoted this to

00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.920
council many many many years ago, it was

00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:01.095
supposed to be up and running now,

00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:02.216
right? It's supposed to be saving

00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:05.240
rateayers power bills now.

00:38:06.240 --> 00:38:08.616
Essential Essential Energy are holding

00:38:08.640 --> 00:38:11.256
it up and it would have been 12 months

00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.616
ago. We would have kicked on if it

00:38:12.640 --> 00:38:15.496
wasn't for the ineptitude of essential

00:38:15.520 --> 00:38:18.520
energy. So I I don't know what we can do

00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:20.376
about it, but if there's anything

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:21.815
general manager or yourself can do this

00:38:21.839 --> 00:38:23.575
to me, it' be much appreciated to give

00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.815
him a kick in the ass. I get on board. I

00:38:25.839 --> 00:38:27.736
think our solar array has been ready for

00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.496
just on 12 months. Is that correct?

00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:29.896
Yes.

00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:31.095
And we've been waiting for the

00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.656
connection for now

00:38:33.680 --> 00:38:35.896
long as long as that and much before. So

00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.416
it wasn't just plucked out of midair a

00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.575
year ago. It was in the pipeline for the

00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.976
whole construction period of the solar

00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.575
array as well. So we're talking two and

00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:44.616
a half, three years.

00:38:44.640 --> 00:38:46.936
Yeah. We're still not connected and it's

00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.376
a saving of a million bucks a year

00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.095
roughly to correct rate payers. Yes.

00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.119
 so we will endeavor to  expediate

00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:56.296
it. Thank you councelor. So I'll put

00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:57.815
that motion. We've got a move in second

00:38:57.839 --> 00:38:59.176
that

00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:02.200
yeah all those in favor

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:04.696
against car.

00:39:04.720 --> 00:39:07.720
I move 11.2 to 11.8 on to

00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:10.296
okay

00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:13.320
move 11.2 11.2 Shelley and Cornish

00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.335
the Maji Center of Excellence Training

00:39:17.359 --> 00:39:20.359
Camp progress probably the last progress

00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.616
update. Council Cornish, you may speak.

00:39:22.640 --> 00:39:23.016
Thank you.

00:39:23.040 --> 00:39:26.040
Um Mr. Mayor, I was um privileged enough

00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.016
to go to the opening on Friday and it

00:39:29.040 --> 00:39:31.256
was absolutely fantastic. It's a highly

00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.280
impressive  diamond in Maji.  I do

00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:37.736
believe it's going to be extremely

00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:39.736
popular and I'm extremely proud the

00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.760
Panthers are coming here. um well are

00:39:43.359 --> 00:39:46.359
here and will be staying there as I am a

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.480
former Penra city councelor

00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:52.616
and Panther will win

00:39:52.640 --> 00:39:55.095
baseball team

00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:57.496
penis loss is our game by pulling down

00:39:57.520 --> 00:40:00.520
the stadium the fools  but  Mr.

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.095
Mayor and Mr. General Manager, I

00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.656
congratulate you on that as that will be

00:40:05.680 --> 00:40:07.496
not only a training center. I can see it

00:40:07.520 --> 00:40:09.575
being used as a conference center and

00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:11.976
something that will pay its way. Not

00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.736
everything pays its way on council, but

00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:14.536
that works.

00:40:14.560 --> 00:40:17.560
Thank you, Council Cage. and I might

00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:18.936
agree with what you're saying, but I

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.856
think here at a forum and I did say it

00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.376
out there that

00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.136
 the work staff have put into this

00:40:24.160 --> 00:40:26.936
over the last five years the research

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.256
that Alina and Brad and the whole all

00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.335
their team put into what's required and

00:40:31.359 --> 00:40:32.616
what's not required at those sort of

00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:33.896
centers been

00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:35.736
phenomenal and the build bill build part

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.376
has been very trying for our general

00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.216
manager who has a building background.

00:40:40.240 --> 00:40:43.240
So he was very helpful out there so

00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.256
saved us a lot of money. We're actually

00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.496
glad it's over to be truthful. General

00:40:47.520 --> 00:40:48.456
man.

00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:49.976
Yes.

00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:51.815
So yeah. Yeah. It's a great facility. We

00:40:51.839 --> 00:40:53.976
just got to drive it. Now there's no

00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:54.536
sorry

00:40:54.560 --> 00:40:56.136
through you, Mr. Mayor. Um I got

00:40:56.160 --> 00:40:58.456
informed last night that um the building

00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.136
company won the master builders

00:41:00.160 --> 00:41:02.856
association award for the build of that

00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.880
center.

00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:08.295
So there again and I said exactly the

00:41:08.319 --> 00:41:11.319
same when council was on the council

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.335
when we built Glenn Miller. I remember

00:41:13.359 --> 00:41:15.016
saying around this table it's all right

00:41:15.040 --> 00:41:17.095
to build these great big things and

00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.776
fantastic

00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.776
now you got to drive them otherwise they

00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:21.976
just sit there like a white

00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:23.496
you always get somebody's [ __ ] about

00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:25.256
so we we'll be driving it hard don't

00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.815
worry thank you so we will put that

00:41:27.839 --> 00:41:29.416
motion thank you councelor Cornish all

00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.335
those in favor

00:41:31.359 --> 00:41:34.359
against carried everybody  now

00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:35.575
councelor Shelley

00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.599
I move 11.3 to 12.2 Good council surely

00:41:38.720 --> 00:41:41.720
count second council carav

00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:47.656
11.3

00:41:47.680 --> 00:41:50.680
is maji valley park expansion project

00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.800
11.4 is a policy review council's

00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:55.496
expenses they're going to take them all

00:41:55.520 --> 00:41:58.456
off us 11.5 is policy review for the

00:41:58.480 --> 00:41:59.575
family day can

00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:00.696
you can speak on it

00:42:00.720 --> 00:42:03.496
11.6 is a library report

00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:04.456
Mr. Man,

00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.335
you can talk when I want to mention

00:42:07.359 --> 00:42:08.856
something on 11.3.

00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:10.295
Okay. Well, I'll go. You'll let Yeah,

00:42:10.319 --> 00:42:11.815
I'll just say anybody like to speak on

00:42:11.839 --> 00:42:12.776
any of that. Yeah.

00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:13.335
11.

00:42:13.359 --> 00:42:15.016
11.7 is a community and cultural

00:42:15.040 --> 00:42:17.896
services quarter report and 11.8's a

00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.920
major extension hours of the trial we

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.016
had last year, which was very popular.

00:42:23.040 --> 00:42:24.856
So, we've got a mover in a second. Would

00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.536
anybody like to ask a question on any of

00:42:26.560 --> 00:42:27.815
those items? Council

00:42:27.839 --> 00:42:30.839
11.3 the $100 per counselor.

00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.575
11.4 policy council expenses

00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.815
7.4.

00:42:35.839 --> 00:42:37.656
 that's okay to go through. I'm happy

00:42:37.680 --> 00:42:40.376
with that. But we were talking earlier

00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.295
and the suggestion that council Thompson

00:42:42.319 --> 00:42:43.976
is the only one affected.

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.176
No, he's not. So am I.

00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:46.616
Are you affected too?

00:42:46.640 --> 00:42:48.055
So if there's something they can put on

00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.136
their roofs or something like that, if

00:42:50.160 --> 00:42:50.856
we can

00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.016
stand up do it, it'll end up cheaper in

00:42:53.040 --> 00:42:54.696
the long run and provide a better

00:42:54.720 --> 00:42:55.575
service.

00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:57.335
So should we look at that?

00:42:57.359 --> 00:42:58.936
No.

00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.960
Idiot. Why

00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:04.536
sorry

00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:07.560
I forgot question.

00:43:10.560 --> 00:43:12.216
Big pardon.

00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:15.240
We didn't Mr. May sorry Mr. May Mr.

00:43:15.680 --> 00:43:17.335
Mayor. Um it's essential that all

00:43:17.359 --> 00:43:20.359
councilors have proper communication. Um

00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.800
 I've already spoken to  council

00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.256
officers who recommended councelor 

00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.280
Thompson put in a um  a request for a

00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:34.680
um what do you call those booster

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.880
for the on his premises so that he is

00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:41.160
not um you know  handicapped on what's

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.295
going on. So if that can happen that'll

00:43:44.319 --> 00:43:45.095
be great.

00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.119
That's first sorry council lang just a

00:43:48.720 --> 00:43:50.776
question. Are you asking whether to have

00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.800
the like $100 a month fee allocated or

00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.416
whether it's reimbursement for the

00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.815
installation of a booster? Is is that

00:43:59.839 --> 00:44:01.016
what you're doing adjustment with?

00:44:01.040 --> 00:44:03.256
I don't know what a booster costs

00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:03.736
a lot.

00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.656
I don't know either. Yeah. Sorry.

00:44:05.680 --> 00:44:06.536
That's a chilly.

00:44:06.560 --> 00:44:08.776
Yeah. And just briefly and I'm in the

00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.416
same boat as council Thompson. Right.

00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.815
And it's not to do with the signal. has

00:44:13.839 --> 00:44:15.815
to do with Telster and Optus always

00:44:15.839 --> 00:44:18.055
screwing around with a tail  mobile

00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.696
mobile towels and it could be one bar,

00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:22.376
it could be three bars. It's it's

00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.256
intermittent. It's just not um not

00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.280
reliable basically. And like everything

00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.536
that I get through through Starlink

00:44:30.560 --> 00:44:32.216
because we got no NBN, we got none of

00:44:32.240 --> 00:44:33.815
that sort of stuff, right? It's Starink

00:44:33.839 --> 00:44:36.839
or nothing, right? So it's not only for

00:44:37.359 --> 00:44:39.095
those who are living in a rural area now

00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:41.256
with with no reception. It's going to be

00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:42.616
for today's council in the future

00:44:42.640 --> 00:44:45.176
because if you think this as much as all

00:44:45.200 --> 00:44:48.200
they're advertising and telling us is is

00:44:48.319 --> 00:44:51.016
going to change, it never has, right?

00:44:51.040 --> 00:44:51.976
And they're actually it's actually

00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.256
getting worse in rural rural

00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:54.456
communities.

00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.480
So, am I right with this policy

00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:01.160
 that that counselors can claim up to

00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.880
$100 per month to help pay for their

00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.256
internet as written? Yes. Yes, that's

00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:10.616
that's 1,200 bucks.

00:45:10.640 --> 00:45:11.016
Yeah,

00:45:11.040 --> 00:45:12.616
that's I think that's okay.

00:45:12.640 --> 00:45:15.496
So, they put in a request or they just

00:45:15.520 --> 00:45:18.216
it's just put on their expense sheet.

00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:19.896
We we've had it for the last 20 years.

00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:20.295
Yeah.

00:45:20.319 --> 00:45:21.815
Right. It was actually knocked out by

00:45:21.839 --> 00:45:23.496
this council cuz they thought that no

00:45:23.520 --> 00:45:25.896
one used it.

00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.920
Any further question? 11. No.

00:45:29.359 --> 00:45:30.295
No.

00:45:30.319 --> 00:45:32.536
All those in favor?

00:45:32.560 --> 00:45:35.560
Yes. Carried. 12.1's a local traffic

00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.216
committee. We did that.

00:45:38.240 --> 00:45:41.095
Sorry

00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.256
those two out that was done as a block.

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:44.216
Yeah.

00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:47.016
12.1 12.2 moved and seconded. We got

00:45:47.040 --> 00:45:47.815
that ready.

00:45:47.839 --> 00:45:49.095
That were done as the block.

00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:49.256
Yeah.

00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.280
Oh, you go right to 12.2. Sorry, I miss

00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:53.896
miss

00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.896
wasn't going to but since

00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.856
Thank you, councelor Shelleyly.  there is

00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.736
no urgent business without notice. There

00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.760
is no confidential session. Um

00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.440
 so I declare the meeting closed.